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Ranking Sly: Rocky, Rambo, Legacy

Mike Bono Season 5 Episode 269

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Ready for a heavyweight bout over the legacy of Sylvester Stallone? We gathered a lively panel to rank Sly’s greatest franchises, argue his place among action icons, and unpack the line that still makes crowds cheer. From Rocky’s underdog magic to Rambo’s ferocious lone-wolf mythology and The Expendables’ star-studded mayhem, we break down why the order Rocky > Rambo > Expendables just works—and where we disagree.

We go deep on best vs favorite films: Rocky and Rocky II for emotional punch and performance, Copland for quiet, serious craft, and cult favorites like Demolition Man and Judge Dredd for pure joy. The conversation heats up when we stack Stallone against Schwarzenegger, Statham, Van Damme, Norris, and Bruce Willis. Is he the definitive action GOAT or the timeless bridge between eras? We also spotlight Tulsa King, where Sly’s big-screen presence translates into a sharp, funny, and surprisingly heartfelt crime series that proves his range and endurance.

Then we tackle the extremes: the reported 2.8% body fat for Rocky III, the risks behind the look, and how far is too far for physical transformations. We talk plastic surgery, aging on-screen, and why audiences connect with Stallone’s blend of toughness and vulnerability. And yes, we honor the immortal line—“Yo Adrian, we did it”—as a cultural touchstone that captures shared victory and the soul of the Rocky saga.

If you love action cinema, iconic quotes, and spirited debate, hit play and weigh in. Subscribe, share with a friend, and drop your rankings and hot takes in a review—we want your Sly top 3.

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SPEAKER_01:

Welcome everybody to another episode of the Ride Home Rance Podcast. This is, as always, your host, Mike Bono. I have a great episode that I'm super pumped to get on for. I have a panel of guests, and we're going to be talking all things uh Sylvester Stallone and talking about Sly and everything that goes along with him. I have a panel of guests that are going to be sitting here with me and living my dreams of wanting to be Rocky and talking about uh Stallone here. And guys, I need your name. Uh, is Hawaii an overrated or underrated state? And have you ever eaten dragon fruit? And JJ, we're gonna start with you.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, JJ Phillips. Um, Hawaii is I would say underrated since I've never been there. I really don't know, so I'm gonna say underrated. And I've never had dragon fruit, so I wouldn't know. Okay, all right. Uh next we got Cole.

SPEAKER_04:

Hey uh Cole Schneider. Uh Hawaii is I don't know, it's it's rated. I've never been, so I can't really make a judgment on it. But uh Jagon Fruit is actually pretty delicious. I like it.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Uh and last but not least, we have everybody's favorite manager of the podcast, Fetty.

SPEAKER_00:

So everybody knows me, I'm Fitti. I'm gonna say Hawaii's underrated, and I've been there. Um, it was incredible. I'm a huge, as everybody knows, a huge Hawaii Rainbow Warriors basketball and football fan. Um, so love Hawaii, vastly underrated. I actually just sent this text out after the Arizona game the other day, and I was like, can you imagine being a football player at the University of Hawaii? Like, how incredible that would be like being there and playing college football, but that's for another time. And I'm gonna say, um, dragon fruit is underrated. I didn't really didn't have it till recently, but I find it to be pretty delicious and refreshing.

SPEAKER_01:

I was gonna say, with what we were talking about before we hit record, Fitty, I really thought that answer for the dragon fruit was gonna go a whole hell of a lot longer than that than that. Um, but yeah, everyone knows me, Mike Bono. Um, I I I've never been to Hawaii. I I want to. My wife has an aunt that lives there. She always says we have a place to stay if we ever want to visit uh Hawaii. Um, so I mean I'm I'm gonna say uh it's underrated because I've never been there. Um and I've never eaten dragon fruit, so I have no idea um what it's like. So I'm gonna take uh Cole and Fitty's suggestion on it and and say it's a it's it's great. Uh but we're not here to talk about fruit or Hawaii. We are here to talk about Sylvester Stallone um and everything that he has to go through. So, JJ, we're gonna start with you. And where does Stallone rank as an all-time actor? Ooh, damn. Dude, you know we asked the hard questions on these panels. I don't know why you're always so surprised.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm going to say top top five, top five. He's in the top five. I'm not gonna put a number next to his name right now, but he's in the top, he's in my top five.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

All right, cool. What about you?

SPEAKER_04:

Uh with action actors, I always kind of put them in a different area, right? Because there's like there's action guys, and then there's you know the other guys. So I always put Sallone in in the top five of action guys, right? Probably two or three, right right around where Schwarzenegger is.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. And I cannot wait to hear this. Uh, but Fitti, uh, where where's the loan for you?

SPEAKER_00:

You know, it it's it's hard to to kind of get a pinpoint on him too at times, because he's done really nothing but like like action movies or maybe like a thriller type of deal. You get a little bit of comedy here and there. Um I'm gonna say overall, Stallone has to be top 15 of all time, but I'll get into that later. And probably as an action hero, he has to be top three. Um, it has to be like him, Schwarzenegger, and probably at this point Jason Statham. So I would say he's in that mix in the top three.

SPEAKER_01:

That's a solid top three for action, action actors. Like that, that you can't go wrong with that top three. Hell, they were all in a movie together, the expendables, you know. Like that's that's that's a hell of a that's a hell of a ranking. I would, I mean, I'd have to agree with you know, JJ here. He's in my top five for sure of all-time actors, uh, action actors. I have about that two or three range. Um, I think you can intertwine him and um uh Swarzenegger, you know, those two can kind of battle it out for two and three, but I think Statham right now is just you know untouchable as an as an action actor. Uh, but Finny to stay with you uh because this this ranks Stallone's three big three series in order from best to worst, and that's the expendables, Rambo, and Rocky.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I I I think you have to so you have to say Rocky, and I mean I'm saying it as a fan, but you have to look at it though as he's transcended time with that series. I mean, you're talking about you know, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, and the 2000s, and then you add in the creeds, the first two creeds that he was in, being in the you know, the what is that the 15 and 17 range of the 2000s? So you have to rank it there. It's transcended time. Um, I know we talked about this on the Rocky show. I mean, he's he's really created probably the greatest boxing movie ever, if not sports movie, and probably the greatest love story ever as well, with him and Adrian. So it has to go Rocky, has to be one. Um it's really hard for number two. I'm probably gonna say Rambo, um, because that series he whatever like happens in it, he always comes back. Now it's very far-fetched, some of that stuff. Like he won, he won the the the Afghan, you know, Russian war himself in the 80s, and you know, he took on took on like a bunch of mercenaries and in you know, the fourth Rambo, you know, and then in like the last one, he he killed an entire cartel. Um, so I mean it's very entertaining from the point that like what he does um, you know, with that. And then I'm gonna say the expendables, but but Rambo and the Expendables are are pretty close. It could be almost like a two and two A, but I'm gonna go Rocky, Rambo, and the Expendables.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, Cole, what about you? Uh, so I'm I'm actually right with Fiddy. I I would say Rocky is just a great movie. Uh, whether you're a sports guy, you're not, like it's just a great movie, good acting, great storyline, incredible ending, um, just all around a great movie. Uh, Rambo is my one of my favorite uh action movies ever. Um, it's fun, it's uh ridiculous, it's it's got some great one-liners. Um, it really makes Stallone out to be just like the biggest badass in the world, and that's awesome. Uh, The Expendables is great. Uh, I would definitely put it at three. Uh, I can think of a few other Stallone movies I probably put up above that, but uh it's still a good movie.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, absolutely. JJ, round us out on this one.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I'm gonna go same with everybody else. Rocky series number one. I mean, that's not even a question. I mean, it's classic. You can throw it on and just go through one, through all of them, all the way up to the Kree series in a day or two and just never get bored. Um, two, of course, is uh Ramble. I mean, just mind-numbing action. You just take it for what it's worth and it's great. And then expendables, I'm not so high on, so it's number three for me.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, just in case you guys were wondering, that is the correct order. I was hoping you guys put it in that order. That is the correct order for those three series. It is, it is Rocky Rambo, and then the expendables. Yes. Um, Rocky, like everyone hit it, you know, like you know what Johnny said. I mean, it spans from the the 70s and 80s to the 2000s. Like you have a series and a franchise that that's made it that long and then branches off into the creeds that create a whole new franchise and everything like that. You just can't go wrong with that. Uh Rambo, I mean, who doesn't love Stallone being a far-fetched badass in that movie and that series too as well? And then the expendables, I mean, Stallone's not the only one in there, so that's why I kind of would put it at three. I mean, they're phenomenal movies, don't get me wrong, with all the actors and action actors that are in it. But, you know, I I still think that that as for just strictly talking about Stallone and his movies, I it has to be three. Um but JJ, you can only pick one movie here now. What is Stallone's best movie ever?

SPEAKER_02:

Um I'm going to say Rocky II. The second Rocky is my favorite Stallone movie. Yes. I like the first one. The first one is all-time classic, but Rocky II is just my um all-time favorite. He uh he gets the rematch, he wins the belt. I mean, yeah, Rocky II.

SPEAKER_01:

It's not a bad choice. I'm not gonna lie to you, but uh to say Rocky II off the rip is is a strong start. Cool, follow that. Rocky II. What are we talking about, Stallone's best movie ever?

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, so my fa can I go with my favorite? Is that okay? Is Rocky is his I think Rocky I is his best movie ever, but I think my favorite would be have to be Judge Dredd. I just absolutely love that. Oh, that's a classic. It's great. That's that's such a great movie. Yeah, I love that pick. I know. Thank you. That's that's there's so much nostalgia with that movie.

SPEAKER_01:

I just I can watch it anytime so much with that movie. And oh wow, I'm I almost forgot about that one. But Fiddy, what about you?

SPEAKER_00:

So I I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you two different versions here. So if I'm picking probably his best acting job ever was probably Rocky One because nobody really knew about him, and to go in and deliver that, you know, phenomenal story. Um a non-Rocky movie that he probably is very underrated. I think he did a really good job in is the movie Copland. Um, if people have never seen that, it's with him, Robert De Niro, um Harvey Kaitel, um the guy that played the T1000 um in uh Terminator 2. Um you have uh you know a couple other people in there, Rayleigh Otta. So I I think that's probably one of his finest um acting, underrated acting movies right there.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. I was torn with this question when I read it to try to answer this question. Um to pick Rambo for me as one of my favorites just because of the how far-fetched it was, or uh Rocky One. Um for me, uh it was a coin flip, but I gotta go Rocky One uh for this one. Just the storyline behind you know, setting up that franchise and setting up him and Adrian and his boxing career and everything that goes along with that, and it really sets up the franchise. So for that reason, I'm picking Rocky One as my favorite and you know, best movie of all time for Stallone. Uh Fitty, what is an underrated Stallone movie? You kind of touched on it a little bit there with the last question, but you know, is there any other underrated Stallone movies that you would recommend to anyone?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I would definitely say Copland if if people didn't see that, um, you know, for sure. And before I answer this, I do want to throw this out. If you think about the what Stallone did as an actor, you know, he if you look at the Rocky series, you know, he he really made um, you know, the Apollo Creed character, Carl Weathers, the the actor really he was today, right? Carl Weathers was an NFL linebacker who dabbled in acting, but Stallone really launched his career. You know, you look at um Ivan Drago, you know, that with uh Dolph Lundgren, he launched Dolph Lundgren's career. He was just really a model um that he launched his action career. Same thing with Tommy Gunn and Rocky V, Tommy Morrison um launched him, you know, at it with his ability to be a popular boxer in the 90s, uh, you know, with that. Um really helped Michael B. Jordan launch a very, very successful post-crete career um, you know, as an actor. So that's one thing about Sallone I think people need to realize. And then to get all those action people to want to do a movie with him in the expendables, I think is is incredible. Speaks of the respect of Sylvester Sallone. Regardless, I would definitely say Copland um is probably the most I would say underrated movie. Maybe people have never seen with that. I would say another one, though, if I'm taking out the equation, is the specialist with him and Sharon Stone. Um, the specialist is a fantastic, fantastic movie, and that's like prime 1990s, like 48-year-old Sty Stallone. So that's an awesome movie.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely cool. What about you? Underrated movie.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh man, Copland's such a good pick because that's probably like his most like serious movie, I guess. I don't know. Um, he also did this movie about Jimmy Hoffa. I think it was called like Fist or something like that. And it's like a political drama. And I I haven't seen it in years, so I don't know how it still holds up, but I'll just say fist. It's like it's uh spelled out, it's like F-I-S-T. I'm trying to remember. Yeah, it's it's a ridiculous movie. So if you get a chance to see it, watch it. Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

I heard you agreeing with Fitty as they used to just go through movies. Like, uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh-huh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So I can't wait to hear which one you pick with him. This one is a gem. It's a classic. Demolition man. Him and Wesley Snipes. Man, that is a classic. I used to watch that movie so much. I mean, send a maniac to catch a maniac. I mean, it's just it's such a great movie. I mean, I mean, and it has so many puns and jokes. You never find out what the three C cells are used for in that movie. They make jokes about the whole movie, and you never find out what they're used for.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm so glad. I didn't think anybody was picking that movie for this answer. I really I was like, there's no way anybody's picking up one of my favorite movies. It's there, you're not wrong in that one. That should be on everybody's list for sure. It's definitely underrated because that was my pick. That was a thousand percent my pick uh for underrated style movies. And yeah, you just all right, JJ. I'm not mad at it. All right, but JJ, what do you think of uh him in the show The Tulsa King?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, sorry to disappoint you, but I have not watched one episode of that. You've heard shut your mouth. No, I'm serious. I've heard great things about it. I'm always saying I'm gonna start it. I'm always playing catch up with TV series because I hardly have time to watch when I do have time to watch after Ben's watch on like a Sunday, and I have yet to get the Tulsa King, but I have heard great things about it.

SPEAKER_01:

You better pick it up, is all I'm saying. That's uh I'll give my answer right now. Phenomenal. I can't wait for the new season to come out. But they they put a teaser out the other day, and my wife saw it before I did because I was checking something on my phone for the podcast and stuff like that, and I heard her go, uh oh. And I looked up and I was like, shut your mouth. Tulsa King's coming back. Hell yes. That is my like it's phenomenal. If you like the old style gangster movies and shows and everything like that, you will absolutely love the Tulsa King because that's all it is. It's a it's an old school gangster movie, just buy the book, and you you can you can almost pred, I don't want to say you can almost predict what's gonna happen, but you can predict what's gonna happen if you're you you like that genre of those old timey gangster movies and TV shows. But uh Cole, what about you, Tulsa King? Please tell me you've watched it. Please tell me you've watched it. I can't go I can't go over two with this question what's going on too.

SPEAKER_04:

I know, and Johnny was uh was telling me that I have to watch it as well. So this you're not the first person to give me a hard time about it. I just haven't. There's so many shows nowadays. Well, there's always been a lot of shows, but it just feels like it they pile up, and I haven't gotten into that one yet. I got to.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm so glad there's only four of us on this. I'm gonna flip the desk here. Thank you, Johnny, because I know you've watched it because like I'm about I'm about to flip out that nobody's on this freaking show as watched the Tulsa King. But save us, Freddie. Save us.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I I I love the Tulsa King. I think it's it's hilarious. Um, you know, the Dwight, you know, man Freddie, the general they call him in there. Um, you know, he gets out of prison after like 25 years for like murder, and you know, he he goes to to Tulsa and he like he makes his own like Italian mafia with no other Italian people until a little bit later on. So um it's the damn village people he's right, and and and it's so funny because I was thinking they the underboss before he became the underboss, when he was with that other family, he was like, you know, I go out to Tulson and I and I see the white. He goes, and he got like his posse like the village people. He goes, you know, Indian, he's got this guy, he's got a construction worker, like and it's like so funny because his posse is like you know, the that that young kid who's like his driver, you have like the the Native Americans, uh, you have the people who are selling weed in the stores, like you have like gangsters, you have cowboys, like it's his whole posse. Um, it's just hilarious. You have like wet, you know, he has women in it, and it's just so so funny the people he surrounds himself with in that show. But no, it's a great show for people to want to check out. Highly recommend it. I I think it's probably one of Stallone's better acting jobs as well, because I think when you're a movie actor, it's really hard to translate going into like shows, right? And especially multiple seasons of that. Um, but he's he's done it flawlessly. Um, so I give him a lot of respect, but Tulsa King's an incredible, incredible show.

SPEAKER_01:

I'll give you that, just the acting alone for from Stallone in that, because going from movies where you're you know you're learning these lines for just this one thing to learning a whole script for a TV series, you know, that that that's difficult in and of itself because there's not a lot of people that you see in sitcoms that you're seeing a lot in in movies and in big screen. There's kind of you have your your two paths I've seen kind of from what I've just picked up on, you know, knowing a little bit about the entertainment industry. You know, you have your sitcom actors and you have your movie actors, and it's which lane do you want to go? And Stallone's been able to cross that barrier, I think, with that that show and the Tulsa King. And it's it's a phenomenal show. And JJ, I'm gonna hold you to this by the next time you're on the show because you're a frequent guest here and a frequent flyer of the ride home rants. If you haven't at least watched one, I'll give you one episode the next time you're on it. You got at least watch one episode.

SPEAKER_02:

See, I know what's gonna happen. I'm gonna watch one episode, then I'm just gonna binge it all.

SPEAKER_01:

That's why I said one episode. Because once you get to the first one in the pilot, you're gonna be hooked, and then you're gonna watch the whole series, and then we're just gonna be able to talk about it finally. So that's right, that's what that's exactly what's gonna happen. You know my plan flawlessly there, JJ. I'm so glad you picked up on that. But um uh, but you uh, where does Stallone rank just based on his action movies? We kind of talked about this in a little bit, but I want to dive into just his action movies. Uh, where does he rank all the time?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I think if you look at his pure action movies, now I'm not gonna count Rocky because that's that's more of like a love story, drama, sports, right? But if you look at like the expendables, you really look at Rambo, Demolition Man, The Specialist, Cliffhanger, Um, Copland, you know, I'm I'm sure Judge Dredd. You know, I I would say, I mean, he he definitely is top three. I the only reason I probably wouldn't put him as top one is because I think Jason Statham has really taken that over because Jason Statham has played nothing but like in action fighting movies um his whole career. He has, I think, a more specific genre to being an action hero. Um, you know, you could make the argument for Schwarzenegger too, right? I mean, he has a Terminator series which has really transcended time as well, and some of the other things he did. I just actually watched Conan the destroyer uh the other day about about Schwarzenegger. So you know, I I would say he's he's not one. I think that Jason Statham is the king of action movies from here on out, but he he's definitely I would probably say three, just because I think it's really hard. I don't think anybody picks the series Rambo over the Terminator as a better series, in my opinion. Um, so that's why I gotta say he's probably three, but I think he's he's above Chuck Norris. Um, he's above Steven Segal, any of those. I'm gonna say he's three.

SPEAKER_01:

So you're just gonna end on that bold statement right there. Above the Chuck Norris. Oh wow. Holy shit. I need to, I need to die. Cole, go go on. I need to I need to think about that for a second.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, I think I think Schwarzenegger's number one. That might be a tough sell here in this group, but I do think that when it comes to action heroes and movies, he's he's the ultimate. I do think that like those two had a great rivalry, especially in the 80s. There were a lot of just like great movies by both actors. Um, but yeah, I I do put him above, you know, again, I think people are gonna disagree. I think he's above Van Damme, I do think he's above Norris, I think he's above Bruce Willis, uh, you know, even Jackie Chan, if you want to throw him in there. So it's like I think that uh I think Stallone and Schwarzenegger are like one and two in my in my eyes. Those are my two guys. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh JJ, there's so much to digest on this question.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean uh Rambo. I mean, I I'll put him maybe like fourth, maybe like number four. I mean, I got Schwarzenegger over him, I got Van Damme over him, stay uh Jason Statham. I mean, yeah, fourth is pounds about good, maybe even fifth. I'm probably forgetting somebody right now, but he he he's he's he's he's top five, but there's a few people above him, I think. Five five's a hard sell for me.

SPEAKER_01:

That that's that's a that's a hard selling.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, there's there's so many. I can't even I'll be Van Damme.

SPEAKER_01:

Like come on. Like he's above Van Damme.

SPEAKER_02:

I'll give him I mean, man, man, blood sport, come on, man.

SPEAKER_01:

Come on, because like that's just above uh no, I don't I don't believe Jackie Chanson stunts Jackie Chance. I'll I'll Jackie Chance is a is a coin flip for me with him and Stallone. Yeah, I'll I'll give you that one. Norris, I mean nobody beats Chuck Norris. I mean, we all heard all the jokes Chuck Norris jokes, but like I mean, five. I mean, I got state them. State them, I mean, right now, I mean state them, nobody's touching him is number one, nobody's touching him. Um, but you know, it I think at that two three, you know, I got I got Stallone at two, and I got Schwarzenegger at three, um, right now, you know, with everything that's going on and everything like that, you know, but you know, and just the the sheer historic of the movies, but the five, JJ?

SPEAKER_02:

Man, yeah. Um I mean, we can throw uh the people's champ up in there, too. If you throw the rock above stallone, I'm fighting you back.

SPEAKER_01:

If you throw Dwayne Johnson above stallone, I'm coming through this computer at you, JJ.

SPEAKER_02:

I will find you. I mean, none of you guys seen Black Adam, the masterpiece. No, that was a good movie.

SPEAKER_00:

I'll give you credit. That was a good movie, but I think here's the thing I think like Dwayne Johnson has to continue on that trend. Time out Stallone was an action hero in the 80s, the 90s, the 2000s, the 2010s. You know, I he just got him on longevity, right? You know, I think I think Stallone's 79 now, and what's you know, what's Dwayne Johnson like 52, 53? You know, so he got another 20 years to try to catch him.

SPEAKER_02:

No, so Stallone's way ahead of uh the rock right now. Okay, I'll make you. Yeah, it's it's not it's not close. You know, I just had to say something.

SPEAKER_01:

I'll say JJ, I was literally about to just kick you out of this damn group, and it was just gonna be Cole and Finney for the rest of this show.

SPEAKER_02:

It's all disconnected. Yeah, oh sorry, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

We lost JJ some technical difficulties. I don't know what the hell happened. Uh, but yeah, just uh yeah. Wow, we almost had we all that we almost just stopped the show right there. For me and JJ to just hash that out. That question, I did not think that question was gonna escalate as quickly as it did as this one. This is this is kind of a controversial thing. So JJ, let's stay with you. Okay. Um, what what do you think of all the plastic surgery he's had over the time, over the years?

SPEAKER_02:

Um tweets their own. Um I I'm not I'm not really big on all the plastic surgery and stuff, but he he's not the worst-looking guy who's had the plastic surgery. A lot of people look a lot worse, so he doesn't look too different from how he originally looked. So, I mean, if he lo if he likes it, I love it.

SPEAKER_01:

I get it. I mean, actors and actresses are gonna do it just so they can stay on screen longer. I get it. Yeah, to prolong their career. It's kind of a necessity. Yep, thank you, Pitty. Wow, that word did not want to come out of my mouth at all.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, he's about 80 years old, so I mean right.

SPEAKER_01:

And he looks good for 80.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I mean, I mean, he looks real good, real good for 80.

SPEAKER_01:

So can't say that.

SPEAKER_02:

Money, money can do for you.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. Uh I would I would have this hairline running away from me if I had this kind of money. That's what that's what it is what it is. Uh, there's a reason I wear a hat on the show, uh, ladies and gentlemen, is not only to support all the great sponsors of the show, but it's because this hairline is just tragic. Um, but go what about you?

SPEAKER_04:

You'd have to take uh Turkish hairlines on a Turkish hairline.

SPEAKER_01:

Stop the Turkish hairline. God damn it, I set myself up with that as a comedian. I should know better.

SPEAKER_04:

No, I think that uh, you know, I I don't really care. Movie stars are vain, right? Like they gotta look a certain way or they think they do, especially guys that built their career off to the off their you know, physique and their looks. Like uh it's kind of I guess a necessity for these guys, like you said. So, you know, I don't really care. Uh it doesn't bother me. It's just funny when you see them talk sometimes and they have like no emotion, it's just their their face just doesn't move. Um but you know, again, like like JJ said, teach their own, whatever, you know, whatever he wants to do with his with his body, he can do it. Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, the fitty, where you at on this one, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

Like, I mean, to the point, yeah. I mean, it whatever anybody wants to do, but I actually will tell you this though. So his eyebrows are actually fake. Um, he has them drawn on because during all his action scenes and the makeup and all that stuff over time, he actually lost all his eyebrows. So he actually has no eyebrows. So that's that's a that's a true fact about him. But I think the thing is, you know, uh he could have, I think if you look at like Stallone and Judge Dredd, Demolition Man, Copland, you know, the specialist, like the dude was a stud, right? And I think if he would have just aged naturally, he wouldn't look maybe as plasticky as he is now. I mean, if you look at guys that have aged naturally, like Sean Connery did it, and um, you know, uh uh George Clooney's done it, and things like that. So I don't know if he nest the dude necessarily needed it because I mean I think he just would have aged to just being a uh you know an old man and would have been fine, but you know, whatever he wants to do. But yeah, his eyebrows are actually like fake, they're drawn on because he he's lost them.

SPEAKER_01:

That's hysterical that he he's he's lost his eyebrows. I didn't know that. That's that's I learned something today with the show.

SPEAKER_04:

Um, but yeah, he injured himself like a bunch of times during Rambo. I think he injured himself like four or five times during Rambo and like burned himself. He did all sorts of crazy stuff for that.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know how you don't injure yourself if you're doing your own stunts begging Rambo. You know what I mean? Like it's like you're gonna get hurt like that if you do this, like so. I mean, it it it is what it is, and to each their own. But I'm kind of with you guys. If you want to do the plastic surgeries, and by all means, do it. I'm not gonna say one way or the other that you should or you shouldn't do it. Um however, um, I don't know why men stop the aging process, you know. Like I make the joke about my hairline running away, it's it's part of the aging process. My wife looks at me and she's like, and she finds another gray hair in my beard, and she's like, Are you gonna you gonna do anything about that? Absolutely not. Why would I stop the aging pro it's gonna happen regardless of what I do? So, like, why stop that? You know, but teach your own. I understand, you know, movie actors and actresses they have to they have to they think they have to look at a certain way to to continue acting and you know it's part of the uh necessary evil is what the where when um uh the words wouldn't want to come out of my mouth is is what I was looking forward to as well.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh but fitting uh did you know I'm sure you did uh uh Stallone got down to like 2.8 percent body fat uh for Rocky III uh this is almost uh you know unheard of for anybody uh even pro athletes you know it's kind of dangerous what do you think of that yeah yeah so if you look if you watch Rocky III closely I mean that that is like freakishly weird of how shredded like he was and if you read back on that he like ate nothing but chicken and rice and drank uh black coffee to shed that weight to get down now I'll give the guy credit right because the average person couldn't do that um I mean and then let alone like a movie actor and the dedication to do that I mean it's it was crazy but it was freakishly weird and then if you look at Rocky four I think he was like up to five point two percent body fat but you know we we all have played sports you know I know JJ's huge into fitness too and stuff and that that's actually pretty dangerous though to get that low because you're talking the best athletes in the world don't get like that let alone you know an actor so um I mean I give the guy credit for the dedication to do it but I think it's foolish for anyone to try to do that thousand percent on the you know anybody getting down to two point eight percent body fat it's just it's it's uh we'll we'll get to JJ who's at the fitness here last to kind of to talk about that um and as you can hear my cat doesn't agree with that either who's just literally in the background like what like Jesus Christ uh but Cole what about you I mean that's wild I didn't know he got that low I mean he was shredded in that movie uh but like that's that's just crazy to me that anybody would do that if like I've never been below 15 in my entire life so thinking even below five percent that's that's insane so yeah I just I think that's dangerous and probably wasn't like uh what's the realistically uh physiology or whatever the the sciences behind bodies uh I'm sure they weren't like real up on that sort of thing quite yet knowing how dangerous that was but I can't imagine anybody was okay with him doing that on the insurance side for the movies um it just sounds so stupid to me yeah JJ as you know a resident fitness guy uh on this panel here and and everything like that what do you what do you think of this?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah that's that's I never knew that's crazy like I'm surprised he was even able to like to function at all because that's like dangerously low and um I mean only eating chicken and rice drinking black coffee I mean he couldn't I don't know I I mean that's that's I mean kudos to him because that takes a lot of hard work and like uh he had to be just starving all the time I mean I I mean he had to be pretty irritable shooting the movies because that's that that's that's tough man I couldn't I could never do that I mean kudos to him but some of the argument scenes were probably just him being hungry like you know like I mean honestly I'm probably ad-libbed like that he's probably tired he had to be tired he had to probably push through workouts with like no energy I mean yeah that's that's probably well I think where was he get where was he getting his vitamins from man like yeah you know like you need greens you know how do you not get scurvy doing that this is crazy to me I think at like the the peak of my athleticism and swimming in that I was still only down to like a six percent at the at the lowest body fat that I was and that was me swimming seven miles a day at at practices and shit like that that's 2.8 is just the yeah almost sounds made up yeah it's it's like it's like I've never heard that's crazy that's yeah I mean for him for being able to do it but I will tell you this too if you read more into that and and I and I don't know like the physiology behind it. Like I you know I I know weightlifting science and stuff like that but something with his body happened that because he was so low his blood wasn't pumping the right way so he used to have to and this was honest truth stand like stand on his head to get blood rushing back through his body to like get into his brain and circulate back down he used to stop the movies and like literally do handstands and headstands to get the blood circulating back in his body something about the veins narrowed like greatly because he wasn't also drinking water I don't know it was something wild it's just stupid like that's just if you if you have to do that like is it worth it you know what I mean you could be and look shredded with a five percent body fat I'm not to the level he did in Rocky III which I get for the the one to get that look but like yeah that's just uh it's crazy to think that but I mean I mean it was a drastic change from like Rocky two to three or four I mean his body change was just crazy. Oh he really he really like hit it hard yeah well and I think too if you look uh I think this was when he did the specialist I think in 94 his you have to look at the picture because his waist was so narrow I he was wearing like a size 28 jeans in the waist wow I don't think I've ever won a 28 in my life no I never wore a 28 and I was 165 pounds in college and I never I never wore 22 like a 30 I was that's right I was like I was like 160 165 pounds and I've never wanted 28 yeah I I I graduated high school at 155 pounds and I still had a 32 waist you know what I mean like that's 28 waist that's probably the waist of my thigh right now yeah dude like that wouldn't fit over my calf right now 28 waist with that with how my wife has fattened me up in the past 10 years we've been together like that's just insane to me but uh finny we're gonna we're gonna end the show here with this last question here and it is is the phrase yo adrian we did it in Rocky II the greatest movie line ever um it it arguably could be um because I think even if you've never seen Rocky um you know that you know and that's like a very emotionally charged scene at the end of Rocky II you know he just fought his biggest rival they you know connected you know Apollo put his arm up in the air and you know said besides my son being born this is the greatest you know moment of my whole life and one thing I want to say to my wife you know Adrian we did it I think everybody knows that um and you know then in Rocky six to say at the end of that yo Adrian we did it um I I would say it probably has to be out there is probably one of the best one-liners or phrases probably in in cinema history yeah okay Cole what about you I I mean yo Adrian in general is probably some of the I mean it's probably most quoted of any you know action movie or sports movie. Um yeah I think just yo Adrian in general especially from the first one um is just like such a memorable line so yeah I I agree like I think in action movies that's gotta be one of the the top ever yeah okay JJ let's get to your thoughts before I get into mine um yeah it's definitely one of the the top lines I mean even if you've never seen the movie you know you know that line I mean it's kind of just like uh what's that uh I'm back in the Terminator franchise I'll be back or whatever that is and that type of stuff so it's like them lines they just stick with you if you've seen the movie never seen it I mean pop culture is just idolizing type of things I I I would argue the fact that it is the greatest movie line ever and it's because anybody who does a stallone impression or impersonation the first thing they go to is a yoja we didn't the first thing that comes out of their mouth is yours like that's the first anybody who does a stallone impression it it that's the first thing that comes out of their mouth I would put it up there and like you touched on it there JJ and then I'll be back in that and even going as far as you know I'm Batman like that's the like those type of lines I think that like that line there and especially for the Rocky franchise to bring it back way later on into into Rocky 6 and everything like that you know it it's it's it's it's a it's iconic and I would put it up there as one of the greatest for the reason that no matter what the impressionist is the first words out of their mouth is yo hey Jen we did it like that's that that's it and that that's my thought on that well bono if you remember if you remember back to to my wedding speech do you remember what I said at the end of it oh no oh yeah I I it didn't connect with me and so you just said that like I just you know I I said I made a speech at the end of my wedding and I was you know thanking my in-laws and my parents and all the people that helped and supported us and our bridal party and then I I said to you know to my wife I said and I can finally say yo Cassie we did it we did it and has you know had everybody had everybody dial after who who knew me who knew how much Rocky meant to me you know when I when I said that so it was it was I think it was pretty comical. I can't believe I didn't pick up on that to be a thousand percent honest with you I'm mad at myself um the the yo Cassie we did it I can't believe that it didn't register with me to you just said that we were talking about this now like I I hate myself for that uh to be honest with you as a comedian like that's that's prime comedy gold and a and a huge callback to anything and especially you being the Rocky fan and Stallone fan that you are uh for sure um yeah I'm I'm mad at myself for that so we're gonna end the show with me just being mad at myself here and but that was that's that's all the questions I had though but for everybody here this was a lot of fun getting to talk uh about Stallone JJ JJ for okay we'll we'll talk about this because anybody who knows the show and listens to the show JJ I'm pretty sure now at this point in time just comes on here to try to upset me with some of the stuff that he says um because he knows how like he's such a such a big contributor to the show and and we love JJ here a lot but like I'm pretty sure now your main goal is like how can I upset Bono in this show something that we're talking about I gotta get you going. I gotta get you going you do you do and I appreciate it so much more than you know JJ but that is actually going to do it for this week's every episode of the Ride Home Brands podcast I want to thank pretty cole not JJ um and everybody on the show and everyone for listening to the show. As always if you enjoyed the show be a friend tell a friend if you didn't tell them anyways they might like it just because you didn't that's gonna do it for me and I will see y'all next week

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