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Overcoming Odds: From High School Rookie to Collegiate Champion and Beyond

Mike Bono Season 4 Episode 199

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What if starting a sport in high school could still lead you to championship glory? Join us as we chat with Jordon Tague, who made a triumphant switch from baseball to wrestling later than most and quickly rose to the top. Discover how he went undefeated in JV, clinched multiple championships at Winter Springs High School, and leveraged his passion and outstanding coaching to find success at both Coker College and Notre Dame College. Jordon's story is a testament to the power of determination and love for the sport, providing invaluable insights for anyone curious about the challenges and benefits of starting later.

But that's not all—this episode dives into the world of college athletics and Olympic dreams, featuring a wrestler and a swimmer who share their unique journeys. Hear about the swimmer's inspiring recovery from a shoulder injury to achieve success at Bethany College, and the wrestler's path to securing a spot at Notre Dame despite fierce competition. We'll also explore the multifaceted training required in Mixed Martial Arts (MMA), with our guest offering a glimpse into his preparation for an upcoming title fight. All this, plus a spirited debate on whether NSYNC or Backstreet Boys reign supreme, makes for an episode packed with passion, resilience, and good-natured rivalry.

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Speaker 1:

Jordan, thanks for joining man yeah, thanks for having me hey, not a problem at all, you know, know, first and foremost, I mean you have quite the accomplished wrestling career in high school at Winter Springs in Florida. For most people who don't know where that is championships and three regional championships. Take us back. And how do you, how do you get into wrestling at a young age and what is it like being successful as as a high school wrestler?

Speaker 2:

Man? That's a good question. So, um, I actually grew up playing baseball. Um, I played baseball from about the age of four to about freshman year of high school. You know, I wasn't wasn't the best at baseball. I actually have a twin brother and he was good at baseball.

Speaker 2:

So I was always kind of living in a shadow, um, trying to like live up to his success in the sport and, um, kind of wanted to find my own thing. And I had a buddy who, um, he actually did like bodybuilding and stuff and he actually told me he wanted to do wrestling in the winter. And I played some baseball in the fall and, you know, wasn't really enjoying it and I was like, you know, let's try something new, tried wrestling. You know, first day just fell in love with the sport, loved everything about it, couldn't stop thinking about it, couldn't stop talking about it with my buddies and actually, you know, started to do pretty well in practices and then pretty well in competitions. My freshman year I was on JV but I ended up going undefeated until the state JV state tournament. So found success very early in the sport and, you know, kind of ran with it and said, you know, goodbye to baseball.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, that's. That's interesting because, you know, I, I would think somebody would have to get into it at a very young age to be successful, and at least at the high school level and beyond. Uh, I don't know a lot about wrestling. Uh, I know enough. I mean, I'm a huge combat sports fan, but wrestling has always been that one sport, at least at the high school level and beyond. Uh, I don't know a lot about wrestling. Uh, I know enough. I mean, I'm a huge combat sports fan, but wrestling has always been that one sport that has kind of like, I can't grasp it at all. I watched the UFC. I understand when the guys are on the ground and what they're doing with the grappling, and, but I, I, I, you, I. You sounds like you started pretty much in high school, right when you got into, got into wrestling, correct?

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah, and you're absolutely right. I mean, most people start at a very young age and it's kind of hard to start in high school and you're already at a disadvantage to a lot of people that have wrestled their whole life. But, um, you know, sometimes we have good coaches and you have the right athletic abilities you never know, someone can catch on pretty quick. So I think I was just kind of lucky to be in the right place right time and kind of found the sport that I was chosen to do for the rest of my life.

Speaker 1:

So did people always get you and your twin brother confused like hey, aren't you supposed to be at wrestling practice?

Speaker 2:

and vice versa maybe no, we're actually, uh, we're frater, so we don't really look like twins. People can tell we're brothers, but no, luckily no. Sometimes I wish so, so we could talk about classes and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

But I was never able to do that, Never able to have that fun with a twin and switch places and mess with people no, not really. I wish I had a brother. I got.

Speaker 1:

I have two older sisters, so there was there was no switching places with anything, so that didn't work out for me either. But going back to your wrestling, you know, walk us through a little bit of your college recruiting process. I mean, you initially attended I believe it was Coker college and before going to Notre Dame college you know why Coker at first and then why the transfer to NDC?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so, um, I don't know, in high school I I didn't. Really I didn't do bad. Obviously I don't think I did bad in high school, but I didn't do as great as I should have done. Um, my, like you said, I I won districts and regionals three times, so I was a three-time state qualifier. Sophomore year probably shouldn't have been there, but I got there Junior year I was actually ranked third in the state and ended up kind of choking at states and went one and two for two years in a row.

Speaker 2:

So getting to my senior year I was like you know, I need to actually do something to actually get recruited to college. You know, later in that season I was having a really good year. The coach from college reached out to me. You know he was the only real NCAA Division II coach that reached out to me and I didn't really know much about the. You know the scene. But I was fully interested right away.

Speaker 2:

So you know, I took the visit, loved the people there, could see myself fitting in and end up taking second at States. It was my first time placing at States. So you know that's probably why I didn't get as many books as I. I thought I should have, um, but yeah, and then. So that's kind of how I got to cook the college I was. That was the only really offer I got. You know I was glad to to have taken it and you know I took that, took that offer, was there for two years and then ended up going to Notre Dame yeah, uh, I, I get that, uh, as a swimmer myself, uh, back in high school and uh, into college.

Speaker 1:

Um, you know, I, I was like you, uh, regionals, I was there, districts. I just couldn't grasp to get to that, that next level at states. And you know, I did have, just based off of my times, I had a lot of d1 offers my junior year and decided, you know, instead of saying you know what I have d1 offers, I probably should forego my senior football season and just focus on swimming. Well, I didn't do that and I hurt my shoulder senior year of football and lost my senior year of swimming because of it, the rehab and everything like that. But bethany college kept their scholarship for me, uh, so, uh, that is why you know I basically I chose bethany colleges because every every other school d1, d2 and a lot of d3s colleges just we can't take a chance on a swimmer with a bum shoulder and a rehab shoulder. I was like I get it, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating for me. But, yeah, you know that.

Speaker 1:

I can understand. You know the co-courier at first. You know you got that offer, you want to, you want to accept it, to be able to go, and you know, do the sport that you're clearly passionate about I know just hearing you talk about it you're passionate about the sport of wrestling, um, which I get, cause I'm I'm still super passionate about, uh, swimming with the Olympics coming up. Do you? Do you get to watch any of the the wrestling events? Is that's still a summer?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's in the summer, yeah, um, yeah. I love watching wrestling at the Olympic level. Um, actually, when I was I was younger when I first got into wrestling it was around 2012. So that was around the time that. I don't know if you know Jordan Burroughs, but he was going through the Olympics and he actually won a gold medal at the 2012 Olympic Games. So that was so cool to see and as a young guy, I was like, you know, that's where I aspire to be, so he was actually my first like idol to look into in the end of the sport. So definitely love watching the Olympics and wrestling and other sports as well too.

Speaker 1:

yeah, well, I mean, I'm, I'm huge. I watched the world trials for swimming uh, the people making it to the Olympics. My wife doesn't quite understand it still and it's like well, you married a swimmer. I love the sport. I swam the time I was 8 through college, so I had a chance at 2012 trials, re-injured my shoulder and that was all she wrote, but you know it was. I still watch it. I love watching the sport. It's one of those. I think both of the sports that we did kind of don't get the rep that they should. You don't see a lot of swimming on ESPN. You don't see a lot of wrestling on ESPN or any of the other sports sites. Why do you think that is?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. That's a good question, but I will say that I think that those are two of the hardest sports that you can do. For sure, for anyone that's ever tried to swim especially, I mean one thing, to swim competitively, but just as a workout versus, you know, doing it for leisure you'll know that it's a different type of workout. It's very difficult to do and I mean I think anyone that's wrestled ever could say the same thing. I mean, wrestling is so, so difficult to do, um, and I I mean I think anyone that's wrestled ever would say the same thing. I mean, wrestling is so, so difficult to do, um, so taxing on your body and it's a lot more tiring.

Speaker 2:

People think, um, so I think it's. It's similar in that, in those two ways, like they're both very difficult, people don't realize how difficult they are, um, how physically demanding the sports are. But I don't know, I guess they're just not as exciting as some of these other sports, um, which is okay, because at the end of the day it's it's more gritty and it's more like the people that are successful in those sports. Uh, they just do it because they want to be good at the sport. It's not for recognition or fame or fortune or anything like that. So absolutely.

Speaker 1:

I, I, I get that, you, I get that. You know a hundred percent, especially about the taxing part. About it People don't understand. Like swimming, you're using muscles you don't even know you have.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure it's the same thing with wrestling.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you know, there was one little bit of joy I got out of. Uh, it was my sophomore year at Bethany College. I've told the story on here a couple of times, but for the new listeners on here and for you, I'm going to tell it again. But one of my buddies was a football player there and he would always rag on me about being a swimmer and that my sport wasn't tough. I didn't. There was no contact. You know, yada, yada, anybody can do it. I said, all right, alright. Well then, fine, come back with me and let's do a workout, me and you. I just did it. I'll do it again. Let's get back in. I'll get back in the pool and see if you can make it through a workout. He's like alright, so we go in and we get through the warm up. And he looked at me and he's like oh man, that was, that was intense. I was intense. I was like that's, that's the warmup, bro, that's the get us ready for what we're about to do. And so the sheer joy I have just watching him limp around.

Speaker 1:

I think I just lost Jordan. Yeah, I think I just lost Jordan. Awesome, all right, now that we got Jordan back here with the wonderful world of technology, and I always say technology is great when it works. But, yep, glad you were able to get back on. But let's go right back into this here. You know talking to us about your time at NDC as a wrestler. I believe you were wrestling there when the pandemic hit and you lost out on the second half of your 2019-2020 season. Is that correct? Obviously, if you were there through the pandemic, yeah, yeah, so we actually were able to wrestle through regionals and the story is interesting.

Speaker 2:

So we had six guys um make it to nationals. We, um, so I was one of the six, and we were literally in sioux falls, uh, south dakota, and uh, it was like the day before we were supposed to compete, they told us you know, you know, everything's still going as scheduled. Um, we went to the venue to practice, everything was good, and then they ended up giving us, uh, like, wristbands for our family because we they said it was going to be limited, uh, attendance. Um, and that same day, all these things were like closing down, like nba announced that they were going to postpone their season. Um, so we're seeing all this stuff on social media. And then ncaa, like, they posted something about like things being postponed or canceled. So we didn't know what was going to happen to us. And then, um, you know, a couple hours later, it was announced that the tournament could be canceled. So, um, so, yeah, we were all there, we're ready to go. Less than 24 hours before the tournament was supposed to start, it got canceled, yeah that's Especially with your sport.

Speaker 1:

You had to be careful during the pandemic and all that fun stuff as a wrestler Right right.

Speaker 1:

You can't be taking the risk on that, but that does suck for you guys, that you know. You make it all the way there and then it gets canceled because of a worldwide pandemic. But you know it. I guess it is. I hate to say, but it is what it is. You know. At least you had that opportunity to go there and still try it. But after graduating from NBC, where did your career take you before you know, you returned to notre dame college as the assistant coach and then the head coach for the wrestling team.

Speaker 2:

So actually, uh, what I did was, um, I got my uh, undergrad, bachelor's degree in criminal justice, so I worked some security jobs. I ended up actually working for brinks, um, the money trucks, um. I did that for a good like nine months, ten months, um. And then, uh, my buddy, hunter bray, was as the assistant coach in college and he was like, hey, do you know anyone that would want to be a ga this next coming year? And I I remember rep replying being like I'll reach out to some people and I texted back again, was like, uh, what about me? He's like I was hoping to say that. So, um, so that that brought me back and, uh, you know, I always thought about coaching somewhere. I just saw it as an opportunity. You know, go back to school, get my master, master's degree and end up coaching at Notre Dame, a place I cared about very much. I thought, why not? It was a no-brainer. That's what brought me back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean I would have loved the opportunity to be a coach my schedule now as a comedian, father, husband, podcaster, merch store day job still on top of that there's really no days off in between there to be able to coach swimming, which is a sport I love. But I always got to check Fetty's facts on this. But you also are an amateur MMA fighter, if I'm not, if I am correct, and I always got checked Betty stats. I love him to death, but he's he's hung me out the dry a couple of times on here with some questions. But can you walk us through that? Because I love mixed martial arts and and watching that every Saturday? We we know what Saturday is here in my family and that's fight night and we always sit down and watch the ufc fight nights. So what's it like being an amateur mma fighter and what's kind of the the mentality with that? Where, where's, uh, where you see that taking you?

Speaker 2:

yeah, so that's correct. Um, so I got into it, kind of from getting back into coaching. Actually, you know, I was back into coaching and I was like seeing these guys compete every weekend, I was like I want to compete again, so I want to do this. So, um, I had a couple buddies uh, one of my buddies, alonzo turner, and um wenz myrtle. Uh, they, they go to a gym called revolution fighting fitness in newport. Um, so it's not too far from notre dame college, it's about 10 minute drive. Um, and I reached out to them I was like, hey, like how do you guys like the gym? They're both like it's awesome, it's great. You know, come check it out.

Speaker 2:

So I went and, you know, checked it out, wasn't really sure if I wanted to do mma. Um, it was something I always thought of, something. I always thought I wanted to do MMA. It was something I always thought of, something I always thought I wanted to do. It kind of dabbled when I graduated from college, so I wasn't too sure if I wanted to fully commit or not. But once I saw this gym, felt the welcome that I felt when I got to the gym, I was like, yes, if I'm going to fight MMA, I'm going to do it here. And then a couple months later, I went to my first jiu-jitsu tournament, won that. And then they're like, hey, let's, let's get you a fight. And I was like, all right, let's do it. So, um, you know, a year and a half later right now I'm three and one as an amateur. I'm actually fighting for a title next weekend. Um, so, so excited, looking forward to that.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome. I mean, we've had, you know, in regards to MMA, we've had quite a few combat fighters on here on the show. We love the sport of boxing, mma wrestling now with you on here. Do you think, as a former college wrestler, has that been the best thing for you as you learn the fighting game Especially? Obviously you know the ground game, I would imagine. But has being that collegiate wrestler helped you be quicker in learning MMA, or what are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think so. I think a big part of it is knowing how to kind of grind and get better in a sport and put your all and do something to get you to the point where you're ready to compete. I think you know, being a collegiate wrestler, you know, you already know you're competing at the highest level, second to the Olympic level, in the sport. So just having that experience and knowing, hey, like you know you've worked for the past five years you know competing at that level in a sport that's very similar to MMA, you know the transition wasn't too difficult and the mental transition as well. It's helped because I'm just looking at it as another sport.

Speaker 2:

You know I'm not doing it to take any aggression out or anything like that, it's just another sport and it's something that, um, you know they say they call it a martial art for good reason, and um, it's just, you know, building a craft and making yourself into, you know, the best martial artist as possible. I think wrestling is a great foundation for that. So I think definitely wrestling at the collegiate level has helped build that foundation and put me in a position where I'm able to be successful in the sport of MMA.

Speaker 1:

Now the gym you're in. Is that a? Is that jujitsu that you're now learning? I guess I would say you know in, uh, the gym, or is it just kind of like all facets of MMA at that gym?

Speaker 2:

All facets. So we have, um, a handful of different coaches. We have, uh, Tim Stafford he's our boxing coach, and then, uh, we have George Comer he's our jujitsu and MMA coach, and then we have two Muay Thai coaches and we have other boxing coaches. So we have all these different facets and then we all we kind of learn them all differently and then George kind of puts them all together for us. So it's a great gym because you can kind of do one thing or the other. If you want to just do boxing, you can do that. If you want to just do more, you can do that. Or if you want to be an MMA fighter and do everything, you can do that as well. So, um, so yeah, if that answers your questions, kind of everything.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that definitely does. I mean I know a lot of these gyms can be specific to one discipline. Um and-jitsu seems to be the running topic Because, you know, as a teenager I got my black belt in taekwondo and every Wednesday was sparring day for the longest time and then all of a sudden, for about a month straight, they brought in this guy who taught us a little bit of jiu-jitsu with it too as well. So you know, having that one discipline and then trying to learn another one, that was almost completely different than what I was. Taekwondo is more of a defensive style of fighting and not the aggressor. And now jiu-jitsu we were having to become the aggressor. It was just a lot to learn.

Speaker 1:

But, like you said, it's it's an art form, it's they call it martial arts for a reason and you know it's a lot of discipline involved and, as a young teenager trying to keep that discipline, that was definitely hard. You know, 13, 14, 15 years old thinking they know everything as it is. It's definitely great to see someone that's passionate about the sport of combat sports, like I am too as well. Like I said, we've had a lot of combat fighters on here. What title are you fighting for, when is it and where can we watch it?

Speaker 2:

if we can't, it's for the Maiden Men fighting promotion. It's next Saturday, july 13th, and it's at the Neo Sports Plan, which is where the Revolution Fight and Fitness Gym is at. It will be streamed on Combatsportsnowcom, and, yeah, so it'll be streamed, and you can buy tickets as well. It's in U-Pit.

Speaker 1:

so, yeah, looking forward to it, absolutely looking forward to it. I'll definitely check that out on the stream and I'll be rooting for you. It's a title fight. Can't not root for you. You fight for the title three and one already. That's. That's awesome to hear. One quick thing before we get into this kind of final segment here, with NDC being closed now, I you have. Have you found it then? The new opportunity in coaching, or is it more? Just, you know, we're focusing on mma and working towards being a pro in mma, or what's. What's the new job?

Speaker 2:

or, if you have one, tell us about it yeah, so I'm taking this time to more focus on mma. Um, you know I love my time coaching and, um, you know, I'm definitely glad I got that experience. The way I see it is, I'm still kind of young enough to really pursue my dreams in MMA. So, you know, I'm kind of going to run with that for now, see what I can make of it and see if I can go pro sometime soon. So currently I don't, I'm not really looking for another coaching job. I'm open to the, to the opportunities that are there, um, but in the meantime I'm just, you know, doing other things. I actually work for, like a company company here locally. So that's what I've been doing, um, just to make money in the meantime. But yeah, so I'm just really focusing on mma, right?

Speaker 1:

now. That's great and I tell everyone follow your dreams. You know, nobody wakes up and decides there's no career path to be a comedian like I am. You know, like there's. That's. It's not at career day at school, mma fighter. That's not at career day at school. You have to have the passion and the desire to want to do that and I kudos to you for for following your dreams. I always support people that are do that and I kudos to you for for following your dreams. I always support people that are doing that. That's great. I root for you. I hope to see you as a pro one day, uh, hopefully in the UFC, the Mecca of MMA. Uh, looking forward to the following the career there for you and see how it goes.

Speaker 1:

But, jordan, I do got to get this last segment in here as we are running down near the end of the episode. Um, and for the current listeners out there, we haven't had to do it in a while because we've uh been doing a little bit more round tables. But that is the fast 55, five random questions from the wonderful manager of the podcast, johnny fitty, falcone and jordan. These have nothing to do with what we've been talking about for the duration of this show. They're kind of rapid fire, but you can elaborate if you feel you need to. So if you're ready and you know Fitty, you know how these questions can be. So if you're ready, let's get rolling. Yeah, let's do it. All right, all right. Question number one Better boy band group, backstreet Boys or NSYNC? Nsync, all right, all right. Question number two who do you think was a more popular WWF wrestler, hulk Hogan or Stone Cold, steve Austin?

Speaker 2:

That's tough, that's a tough one. I'm going to go with Stone Cold. Steve Austin, that's tough, that's a tough one. I'm going to go with Stone Cold.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'd have to. Yeah, I can't argue that point. That's a toss-up coin, but definitely got to go Stone Cold on that one. Question number three what's better food, taco Bell or Chipotle Chipotle? Yeah, that's just. That was, I think after the WWE question we had to give you an easy one there. Easy one, yeah, okay. Question number four which is a worse activity? Hiking or kayaking?

Speaker 2:

Probably hiking. I mean, I just like being on the water. I don't know, I think water is a little bit more peaceful. Hiking you can kind of do anywhere. It depends on the scenery, I guess.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a tough one for me. I'd have to go kayaking. I don't kayak enough to actually, you know, say that hiking's worth it. That's fair. Question number five Best time to work out in the day is In the morning. Alright, I feel like Johnny really took it easy there and you're there for the fast 35. He gave you one tough one, uh, and I'm actually surprised there's been a running theme. Johnny gets stuck on like a certain type of question when he's writing these out and it's been a lot of animal questions lately, like. So that's why I was like I don't know where, but I don't know if we're switching it up now. I, but those are all him, uh, and he sends those to me the day like an hour before I'm about to record a show and I think a lot of them is. He wants to see if he can make the comedian laugh okay and it's, but these questions are random.

Speaker 1:

It's a nice, fun, light way to kind of end the show here, but I do give every guest this opportunity at the end of the show. Jordan, if there's anything you want to get out, whether it's for your fight next upcoming weekend or anything like that, or even if it's just a good message, I'm going to give you about a minute and the floor is yours.

Speaker 2:

All right. No, I just want to give a shout out to my coaches Tim Stafford, george Comer you guys are awesome. Shout out to all my teammates at Revolution Fight and Fitness. Shout out to my friends and family that have been supporting me in this journey that I'm kind of delving into now, um, and then you know, buy the pay-per-view main men promotions. It'll be on combat sports now. Uh, next saturday, july 13th, um, going for that uh lightweight title and let's get it.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, I'm so pumped for this. I will definitely be checking you out. Uh, Saturday, July the 13th, um combat sports, usually the combat sportscom.

Speaker 2:

Uh, either combat sports or combat sports. Now, I believe it's combat sports.

Speaker 1:

Now combat sports. Now I will double check and that will be in the description of this episode so everyone can easily find it coming up next Saturday, jordan, this was a lot of fun. Thank you for coming on. We really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to sit and talk with us here on ride home rants and, as always, if you enjoyed the show, be a friend, tell a friend. If you didn't tell them anyways, they might like it just because you didn't. That's going to do it for me and I will see y'all next week.

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